American—and by extension, Western—conservatism is in flux, and Gladden Pappin sits on the frontlines of that realignment. A graduate of Harvard, where he obtained his BA in history and his PhD in government, Pappin is assistant professor of politics at the University of Dallas and senior adviser at the University of Notre Dame’s Center for Ethics and Culture. In 2017, Pappin co-founded with Julius Krein American Affairs, a heterodox journal of public policy that has been widely credited with fleshing out the agenda of Donald Trump’s administration in more intellectually robust terms than the former President ever could. Pappin has spent the past academic year in Budapest, where he has served as senior visiting fellow at Mathias Corvinus Collegium (MCC). In this interview with Jorge González-Gallarza, Pappin shares his views on where American conservatism should move on in the post-Trump era, and addresses some of the policy questions relevant for the European right too.